Comments on: A Truly Christo-Centric Church

By: logismon

logismon — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:02:50 +0000

” … the anointed who was conspired against by the rulers ”

CHRIST THE SAVIOR AND THE JEWISH REVOLUTION
https://diakrisislogismon.wordpress.com/metropolitan-anthony/
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By: kepha

kepha — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:08:16 +0000

What do you guys think about the Catholic contention that the institutional aspect of the Church, specifically, its offices, are also, indeed, chiefly, a part of this organic unity between Christ and His Bride?

By: Caine

Caine — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:21:28 +0000

I think part of our inability to see the organic connection between Christ and our communities is twofold. The first reason is obvious, in the fact in since the Enlightenment, our first recourse is to read passages as pertaining to individuals and only thereafter to move to the corporate. In the first century and for very many centuries after that, the interpretation of a passage moved in the opposite direction: first applied corporately and then to the individual.

Second, we don’t fully grasp the Old Covenant parallel with the New. Israelites were people who were in “Israel.” This did not just refer to the Land of Israel but also to their ancestor Israel/Jacob. They were “in Jacob” when they were residing in the promises to their ancestor, Jacob. Words to him were words to them; promises to him were promises to them. His glory was their glory.

In a similar (though more glorious) way, we are “in Christ” like they were “in Israel.” In that way, what was promised to Christ is promised to us; what is accomplished in Christ is accomplished in us. And it works in reverse; what is done to us is done to Christ, etc.

By: Mike Bull

Mike Bull — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:22:47 +0000

Good point. And very helpful comment, Sam. The more I look, the more I see this organic head-and-body theme. Jesus quotes Psalm 2 in Revelation:

“The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.” Rev 2:26-28

The hand that holds the seven stars is the same hand that holds the rod of iron, with which He will smash the nations. The Christian church is God’s tool of dominion. The body will follow the head in making a shameful public spectacle of the powers-that-be (Colossians 2:15; 1 Corinthians 4:9; Hebrews 10:33).

By: Sam Hoyle

Sam Hoyle — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:46:16 +0000

Jsesus saw it that way too…

(Acts 9:1) Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples….

(4) He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”